Hello.
Welcome to our continuing
series of live webinars
documenting the creative use of
Mediasite around the world.
I'm Sean Brown, Vice President
of Education for Sonic
Foundry, and today's webinar is
entitled, "Five Reasons K
Through 12 Desperately Needs
Webcasts, Webinars, and On
Demand Video." We have almost
100 people online right now.
Welcome to all of
you joining us.
We have people representing
school districts in almost
every single US state, most
provinces in Canada, as well
as institutions in Italy, China,
New Zealand, Singapore,
and Australia.
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Now to introduce my guests.
On the far left, Jeff Baxter
works in the Department of
Communication at Memphis
City Schools.
As a special projects
coordinator, Jeff works on the
district's website, and
administers the Mediasite
webcasting platform throughout
the district.
Jeff received a Bachelor of
Science from the University of
Memphis in Human Learning and
Development, and has worked as
a classroom teacher,
instructional facilitator,
technology coordinator, and
technology specialist.
To my immediate left
is Scott Holcomb.
He began his teaching career
as an elementary school
teacher and school based
technology coordinator for
students in Memphis
City Schools.
Taking time off from the
traditional classroom in 2004,
he joined a small group of
nerdy-- as he describes it, I
think they're just normal
people like me.
Nerdy and dedicated teachers who
made up the instructional
technology department for the
district, serving as an
instructional technology
specialist. He works hands on
with fellow educators in better
integrating technology
into the classroom, as well as
pushing open the envelope of
instructional technology
via Mediasite at
the district level.
Scott has a Master's in
Education from Auburn, and as
well, as just obtained his
administrative license in the
state of Tennessee.
Congratulations.
You may recognize my guests,
you are two time winners?
Two time winners of Sonic
Foundry Rich Media Impact
Awards for their work at
Memphis City Schools.
So, welcome guys.
Thank you so much.
You have some prepared
remarks for us?
Absolutely.
We want to thank you
for having us.
We really appreciate being
here, and given the
opportunity to share what
we're doing in Memphis.
And what we'd like to do is
start off just giving you a
brief idea of what Memphis
City Schools is
actually made up of.
We're actually the 23rd largest
school district in the
United States, largest
district in
the state of Tennessee.
We serve about 100,000 students
within the city schools.
there's about 200 schools
that we're working with.
18,000 employees, and of that
18,000, there are 7,000
teachers that we're
responsible for.
In our department, our primary
job was to provide the
hands-on support for teachers,
teaching them to integrate
technology within
the classroom.
And so we were presented in 2006
with the Mediasite box.
And it was quite an interesting
experience.
It was more like
a sales pitch.
Kind of, here's this device,
and you know, this is
everything that it us.
And of course, just a reminder,
we are teachers.
Public school teachers.
And we're a little nerdier
than most of the other
teachers, so we kind of looked
at each other, and Jason was
in our group, and we said,
we can do this
with a video camera.
Those were our exact words.
Nothing that we couldn't
do with iMovie and a
little bit of time.
Which we soon found out, we'll
discuss later, was a bad idea.
It didn't work out too well.
So what we decided to do was
go ahead and test it.
Sonic Foundry was gracious
enough to let us borrow one of
their boxes, and just to give
us that hands-on comfort
feeling of it.
And it went very well.
we recorded our first
presentation in October of
'06, and we decided to take
the cheap route, because
that's what teachers do
sometimes, and went with the
LX box server first. And it
didn't take us six months
before we decided we really
need to upgrade.
Because as the two nerds got
together, we started talking,
it got to the point where we
were asking questions of Sonic
Foundry, well, can we do this,
and can we try this?
And they said, well, you
really need to upgrade.
And we pitched that to our
boss, and fortunately, it
worked out for our advantage.
Before you go any further, I
guarantee there are some
people who aren't as tech savvy
going, you know, you
guys are nerdy, but how--
I mean, how does a teacher
learn to do this stuff?
And here's the secret.
We played with the buttons
until stuff worked.
And we did a lot of
communication with Sonic
Foundry, great support.
And that's how we got
everything working.
Because I mean, we're not
IT professionals.
We're not sound engineers.
We're not video engineers.
We just knew that we had to get
PD out to teachers, and we
had that idea of video
professional development on
demand, just like we were
watching TV. Right.
Our first studio really
consisted of the recorder-- we
got the portable recorder--
we had a little canon camera
that came with it, we had one
lapel mic, and that was
about it, that we
all started out with.
It was pretty cut and
dried and simple.
And you can see from the slide,
you can see the borrowed--
and we use that term loosely--
the borrowed 32 inch, 20 year
old, television CRT, that's
all glass, 200 pounds.
Yeah, we kind of commandeered
some stuff, we'll get to later
on, and how we did this.
But as we started doing the
presentations, people started
noticing, you know, what are
you guys doing, and how is
this working?
And we had to start acquiring
equipment, and that's where we
ended up last year.
And then what we've done
is we moved to
adding some more equipment.
We found a mixing
board somewhere,
and we applied that.
We are able to later purchase
a switcher, because some of
the departments wanted to show
videos and external stuff
outside of the presentation,
so we were able to convince
people that that's a
good investment.
We'll talk later on that one.
And then we found this really
cool little application called
Prompt 7.0, and it wasn't that
expensive for us to buy.
But the teachers were coming
in with these giant post-it
note pieces of paper with their
scripts written out on
it, and they plastered it to the
window, which you can see
the center picture there behind
us, and they're trying
to read the script because they
wanted to be perfect, and
our teachers were a little
intimidated by the fact that
they're being on camera.
So we started to try using Word,
and some other things,
that just didn't worked out.
But this prompt allowed us to go
ahead and have them send us
the presentation in Rich Text
Format or Word, and we just
incorporate it into this little
application, and it
works like a teleprompter.
It scrolls, and we can change
the font size, the background
color, and all that fun stuff.
So that's where we moved
for our creativeness.
And then we started adding some
accessories to the lab.
You could tell my little light
there on that picture there,
that stole from, I mean
I liberated from
our conference room.
So we can have some interesting
three point
lighting separated from
the background.
And then we were able to bring
in the smart board.
We wanted to push that
envelope a little.
We brought the smart board in to
do some live webcasts with
our teachers, which was
amazingly successful.
Before you go any further, you
know, we did this presentation
at Unleash.
2010 coming up when?
In April.
Unleash was great.
We did the presentation, kind of
using the same slides that
you're watching right now.
And at the end we kind of got
hit, because we had a few
people who, I think overall they
thought we were trying to
stir up some sympathy for what
we were doing, because if you
look at the next slide,
it looks like a mess.
But really, we put these slides
in, and we wanted to
convey that, again, a
group of teachers--
not a lot of money, you know,
I mean, it's not a $60,000
$70,000 $80,000 investment--
but we're doing like teachers do
best. We're taking what we
need, that idea, and then we're
getting the equipment
that we need.
And piece by piece, we're
either finding it.
And I think that's way a lot
of the school districts,
especially public school
districts, tend to operate.
Like Jeff's said, piece by piece
at a time, and this is
what we next, this is
what we need next.
And you know, that lamp doesn't
look all that great,
but it's what we needed at the
time, and it worked out for
what we were doing.
And I think it did well,
as far as when we
were shooting video.
Like Scott said, you know, if
you're in K-12, you can really
understand what we've
got going on here.
Because, you know, sometimes in
order to be successful, you
are going to have to find some
creative measures just to try
to push your cause.
And we knew, as a group, that
this was going to be amazingly
successful within
our district.
We knew that it had the
potential of revolutionizing
Memphis city schools.
And so, it wasn't going to hurt
anything for us to go
ahead and play with it.
We weren't live with anything
at the time.
We wanted to see what we
could do, and what we
could make of it.
A lot of this stuff, actually
turned out to be a mess like
it was, because we were now
given the opportunity to go
from location to location to set
stuff up, so we had to be
able to to grab and run real
fast. We didn't have a second
set at that time,
of everything.
So we were able to just go
ahead, and leave it hanging
out, grab the wires, put them
in the bag, and run.
And in this location, which
is a teaching and learning
academy, it's where we bring all
of the teachers within the
district to do most of the
professional development.
And so, some vendors would come
in, and we had to move
the recorder to a
particular room.
And so in this situation right
here, we were able to go ahead
and bring in, for still-- you
know, not very active
presentations, but teachers
could come in and do a face to
face, or what want to-- in
a comfortable setting.
And something like that.
So this basically summarizes
what we've tried to do.
We went through a lot
of trial and error.
Two nerdy guys sitting down,
saying, wouldn't it be cool if
we did this.
And so we just started
playing around.
Can this happen?
What do we need?
We sought answers to our
questions from people we knew.
I'm going to put in a plug in
for the users group, that was
such a fantastic thing.
Even the Unleash Conference,
because we were able to
network with so many people, and
get so many great ideas,
that we would call up on
the phone and say, hey
how did you do this?
And then we would try to look at
what they'd done, and then
turn around and make our
own version of it.
And as crude as it may be, but
then when the people saw that,
hey, this is working.
And we would tell them, you
know, we could do so much
better if we had--
And then when they saw the pay
value in something like that,
most departments were willing
to go ahead and foot some of
the money-- outside of our
department-- to cover the cost
of some of the materials that
we were using in the lab.
And then we started also with
presentations within our
department, too.
We actually started taking
some of the--
as far as our jobs were
concerned, we were to teach
teachers how to integrate
technology.
And we were having the same
problems over and over.
What we did was that, we would
take the presentations, and
take Mediasite, and we would
record these things.
And we'd go in the classroom,
and the teacher would say, I
don't know how to do that.
Well, let me show you this
cool little application.
And it saves us a lot of time,
because we weren't repeating
herself to 7,000 teachers.
And we had this rule, that when
you go out to a school--
because I had at least 30
schools, and each one of us
had about 30, 35 schools--
if we were asked 10 times the
same thing, like how do I--
you know, how do I do this?
How do I do that?
You know, in the past, we were
like having to explain it, or
having to set up another
session, during a teacher
planning time.
Which, you know, if you're in
public education, that teacher
planning time is gold.
So we came up--
Again, going back
to Mediasite.
Recording those things that we
kind of take for granted that
teachers should know.
Now, all we have to do
is say, well, you
know it's not a problem.
Just kind of listen to what
I'm talking about now, and
when we're finished, I'm going
to give you a link, or I'm
going to email it to you, or
I'll have it on a piece of
paper and give it to you--
but these will be
the URLs for the
videos that we've recorded.
On the things that maybe
you forgot, that we did
earlier last week.
And that alleviates a lot of
the stress of, I got to
remember all that stuff.
You know, this is one more
thing I got to do.
No, no, we're teachers.
We understand.
This is not one more thing.
This is a, when I'm finished,
you know, let me go back and I
can watch it.
To me, I think that's key.
A lot of teachers think that
that professional development
aspect online is going to
take away teachers.
And it doesn't.
I mean, it's a ancillary, it's
a, you know, this is what we
do afterward to kind
of remember what
we just went through.
And you know, I think there's
another part that I get
started on, how, when we're in
teacher meetings, we're not
really listening.
We're grading papers, we're
thinking about what we're
going to eat for
dinner tonight.
Half of the people are ADD like
I am, and don't remember
part of the conversation.
So in the middle of it, I'm
texting, or doing something
else, or something like that.
Or you know, I remember going
into classrooms, and I'm
showing teachers how to do
stuff, and they're frantically
writing things down on
a piece of paper.
And they'll call me back
three days later.
I lost that paper.
I don't remember where it was.
So we're trying to not be
enablers of the old school.
And really move them into
something that they can pull
up on their own, and teach them
how to fish, instead of
you know, bringing it
to them every time.
Our first stress test really
came with our reading series.
And this just blew my mind.
This really sold the district
on web support, as far as
webcasting and what have you.
A lot of teachers were seeing,
a lot of instructors were
seeing, in PD, that we were
doing this in the classrooms,
and telling everybody, you know,
hey, go to Mediasite.
And the director of our reading
department came up and
said, we have a problem.
We just adopted a reading
series, this is in June,
they're bringing in people from
the vendor in July to go
ahead and do training on the
new reading series, and the
teachers have to start teaching
it in August.
Big problems. One, teachers are
already on vacation, and
they're not going to want
to give that up.
Two, the department's going to
have to pay them stipends in
order to come in, plus travel,
in most cases.
Three, you may leave the end of
the year in fourth grade,
but then you're going to turn
around and come back, and the
principal says, I think you're
going to be needed teaching
second grade.
And so now they have
to be retrained.
Or, you know, you may turn
around and get a brand new
teacher, fresh out of school,
or fresh into the district,
that has never worked with the
reading series, and you need
to go ahead and train
them as well.
And so, we talked with the
vendor, and the vendor says,
yeah, go ahead and record it
on Mediasite, that's great.
You know, this will work
out perfect for us.
And so, we figured that our
return on this one--
taking into account travel,
having the vendor come in,
having to pay teachers to teach
it, taking teachers out
of classrooms, stipend, some
or all of that stuff, saved
the district nearly
$50,000 when you
couple all of that together.
And that was just one area.
And it didn't even hiccup.
I mean, it was smooth, we had no
problems with it, it didn't
cause any stress on
our network, and
they're still using it.
There are teachers going on
today looking at that.
And as for those people who
are listening, who are the
more techie IT people at
the district level, we
know all about you.
And we work really close.
And we get those threats
of, hey, don't
bring our network down.
That's too much bandwidth.
But you know, we're constantly
keeping that in the back of
our heads, too, as
we push this out.
And to be honest, I don't think
we've ever really an
issue with hogging bandwidth.
It's not like 7,000 teachers
at the same
time are hitting play.
That, if we know that it's going
to be big, we just talk
with our IT department, and
they just reallocate the
resources for us.
I say that like it's easily
done, but we've got to get
enough lead time for something
like that to happen.
The next thing, because of this,
was the exhibition of
student work.
Want to tell them about that?
Well you know, our
superintendent, deputy
superintendent, came up with the
idea of, all our students
K through 12, are doing
such a great job.
And we are really hopping on
the bandwagon for project
based learning.
So you know, as an elementary
school teacher, we've always
had some end culminating
project that we had.
Well the idea was to spread
that from K through 12.
So all of a sudden
we had these at--
I think it was twice a year--
fall and spring exhibits that
students had an end product
that they created.
And that was put on display
in the schools.
Well we had jurors, who
were stakeholders,
our community folks.
And they basically were giving
a training via Mediasite,
which helped a lot.
Because the old way to do it was
to crank out a videotape,
and then that videotape would
be sent to either, each
person, or a central location,
or holding 2,000, 3,000 people
in one location and doing
a mass training.
Well with Mediasite, we
videotaped better, and put it
out for the stakeholder, the
public, the parents, who were
going to be jurors.
Who volunteered to do such a
great job in looking at these
end products.
And I think at one time, there
were like 3,000 views on the
video training, for
juror training.
Actually, it was a little more
than that, because we were
required to have 5,000 jurors.
And these are stakeholders
within business communities,
within public offices, within
medical, higher ed, all
watching this.
And several would watch it two
or three times, or show to
their colleague.
Hey, I'm going to go do this,
why don't you check
this out and see?
Well see, and that's the other
thing about the process of
doing video PD, is the
archivability.
You know, where else can you
say, I missed that, or I tuned
out on that exhibition thing.
I wish I could watch it again.
Well you can.
It's there.
24-7, 365, you know, that's
my mantra to teachers.
24-7, 365, video PD is at
your beck and call.
In your pajamas and
bunny slippers.
Our first--
and you can see the
trend going here a
little bit, too, hopefully.
That our first initial
deployment of the application
was for professional
development.
Our next phase was bringing in
the community, which is our
exhibition of student work,
tying it together.
We also had the town hall
meetings, where our
superintendent would
go out to different
areas within the district.
And we would videotape that for
those who weren't able to
make it to the town hall
meetings, and do those live.
And then our newsroom, which
is relatively new.
This gives us an opportunity
to get our story out.
Those in education know that
there are people that would
like to examine everything with
a microscope, and really
pick apart things, and then blow
it up to be a lot bigger
than what it is.
So what we wanted to do was give
the public an opportunity
to come somewhere and hear the
truth of what's really going
on, what really happened, so
they can get both sides of the
story, and something
along those lines.
And allows us as teachers, too,
to get the information
from the district that we need
to know, versus hearing it at
five o'clock, six o'clock,
ten o'clock at night.
That really helps too.
Because the first thing that--
You know, the teachers
hear stuff
faster than the internet.
You know, I can send a teacher
an email telling her, you
know, I need you to send
this to me, and he or
she may not get it.
But they can call me back and
say, you know, I just heard--
So I think having the newsroom,
throw that out, and
Mediasiting it, videotaping
it, allowing that to be
presented to teachers, really
filled that void of, I don't
know what's going on.
Or decreasing false
information.
And here we have
our new studio.
We're so proud of it.
Our wonderful deputy
superintendent said, give them
what they need now.
He turned around and saw what we
had, and said, you guys are
doing such a great job with
this, let's go ahead and step
it up a notch.
That's right.
And if it wasn't for Felicia
Fowler, our current boss now,
a lot of this stuff wouldn't
be upgraded.
We'd still have that 32 inch old
glass TV. So now you can
see in the slide, we've replaced
that 32 inch old
school glass tube
with two LCDs.
And you know, again, I'm the
frugal teacher, and you know,
I just shopped online
and got that.
And it really helps.
And you know, the compliment
to me, when I hear the
presenter saying, I like this
better than the old TV set,
because I couldn't
see it too well.
So, I mean, this is really
helping the presenter that
we've got in front of us to
feel more comfortable in
presenting, and giving
them everything they
need in front of them.
The lighting kit, inexpensive.
For those teachers who were on
board with me, who are kind of
listening and I've got your
attention perked up, I think
we spent maybe $199 for an
entire lighting kit.
And that works out much better
than liberating a lamp from a
conference room.
So now that you saw where we
started, and where we ended
up, you know, how can we go
ahead and think outside the
box to make this applicable to
other people, and we just want
to show this as an example
of what we've done.
But you know, we wanted to see
about how do we get the word
about Mediasite out?
When we first won the Rich Media
Impact Award that first
year, there were people in the
district that didn't know
about the Mediasite
application.
And we brought that back, and
you know, they told everybody
in the district about it, and
they go what's this Mediasite
thing, this video thing
that you're doing?
Which is now a verb in
our school district.
We're going to Mediasite it.
I think we went through two,
three name changes, and I
think we settled on Mediasite.
MCS, Mediasite.
It was crazy.
So we started doing these
presentations and sending them
out via hyperlink.
And then, all the departments
were asking us, you know, how
many people are watching this?
And so we would send the
reporting data, so they can
see how many people were
actually watching the
presentations, and
what have you.
So that was their proof ROI
that what they're doing is
being successful.
We plopped it on our website
and the word
started getting around.
And then the vendors saw that
other vendors are using it,
and so they were--
Houghton Mifflin.
Learning Village.
I mean, they've taken off with
using Mediasite as a platform
for professional development.
John Reed with Houghton Mifflin
Learning Village will
come in, I think he's got
probably the most videos out
there, and everything that we
do inside Learning Village,
teachers get.
And I love the fact
that, you know--
And again, I'm going back
to being that teacher--
getting an email with a
clickable hyperlink says, this
is where my video is.
Because not all teachers
are tech savvy--
wake up call--
Not all teachers
are tech savvy.
And it is hard for people
outside of education to
conceptualize that our educators
aren't running
around with iPhones,
and surfing the
internet all the time.
But there are teachers who will
get an email, they'll
click on it, and they appreciate
that it goes right
to what they're supposed
to see.
And that reporting
data aspect--
what a way to sell a department
head on video.
Music department.
How many people watched
my video?
I can give you those numbers.
Accountability.
I can give you those numbers.
To turn around and say, you
know, we can help you with
your presentation more if we had
such and such equipment.
You know, and see how much
people are looking at it, and
then they'll say, well how
much would that cost?
And we hit them up, and boom.
We add more equipment to it.
But again, out the box, we're
bringing in community, and the
conversation series, we have our
deputy superintendent, and
people come in and discuss needs
within the district too,
as a sit down talk show.
So that the employees have a
line of communication coming
in as well about things
within a district.
Going back to what Scott was
talking about, this isn't a
very difficult application.
I mean, you did see a lot of
wires, you did see a lot of
cables, but it's a matter
of point and click.
It's really easy to use.
And there's not a huge
learning curve,
as you would think.
There's a lot of stuff that
comes in Mediasite that's
right out of the box.
That you can get going
right out of the box.
But if you need support, MUG.
I'm going to put a MUG
plug in right now.
Mediasite Users Group.
That's right.
Mediasite Users Group.
Get online, and there is a
wealth of information, of
people, who are willing and
ready to share what
they know with you.
Like minded folk.
That's right, like
minded folk.
And we're K-12 on there, so
don't be afraid to think that
you're talking to some
engineer, or
something like that.
Thingy ma bobber actually
is a word with us.
Or the doo flicky with the pins,
that thing right there,
that works for me too.
Unleash is valuable too.
Convince your district or
whatever to try to come out to
this, because the networking
abilities.
Meeting these people
face to face.
And sitting down brainstorming,
how did you do this?
A lot of stuff I learned was
sitting down just talking to
people from all over
the world.
You know, we've got friends
in New Zealand.
We've got, you know, people from
universities around the
area, and Alaska.
It's amazing just to see
who's out there and
what they're doing.
And we're educators.
We like stealing other people's
ideas, or liberating
other people's ideas.
Third grade.
That's what I taught,
third grade.
Former mental health
counselor.
So no--
I didn't go to ITT Tech, you
know, there's no DeVry,
there's no-- it's just--
And we're just trying to
encourage you to play.
Something that adults don't
do too well, but
kids do really well.
And you're not on a timeline,
you're not on a schedule.
Take advantage of the box,
if Sonic Foundry
will let you use theirs.
And play, yeah.
Here's the really important.
Jeff's going to hit something
really important, so everybody
write this down.
What are the three letters?
ROI.
Return on Investment.
That's not a word educators
use a lot.
And so what we call it
is proof it works.
And how can you prove
to me it works?
Because there are a lot of
people selling stuff to
education left and right.
And so, how are you going to go
ahead and weed through all
this stuff to try to prove to
your administration, to your
staff, that this is something
that you need?
One of the ways that you could
use this is, take an account
like we did with the
reading series.
How much are you spending on
travel, stipends, substitute
teachers, bringing in external
training sources.
One of the things we'd like to
see here shortly, is all these
OSHA required videos like "Blood
Borne Pathogens," and
stuff like that.
Show them to the district
without having to pass out
videotapes.
How much are you spending on
media, like CDs to send to the
people, or videotapes.
How much are you paying the
person to do all the recording
on something like that.
Or the duplicator, take that
into consideration.
Also if they lose it, you know,
this right here, they
can have on the go 24-7.
Look at the time it takes
to make a presentation.
Take that into consideration.
Look at the cost of your public
relations and your
communications as well.
That right there is huge for
any school district.
Like what we're doing
with the newsroom.
That really diverts a
lot of information.
We were one of the recipients of
the Bill Gates Grant, which
we received this year.
We received several million
dollars to train teachers as a
teacher effectiveness
initiative.
And so we were able to get this
information out to the
community via Mediasite, via
video, and it's out there for
everybody to see, and to learn,
and understand what
it's all about.
So all the questions that we
have come through Mediasite
newsroom for us.
Or a big change in you know,
going from one health
insurance company to another.
That's a big ripple, and I think
it's still rippling.
But all that information is
out there, available to
teachers again, at a click
of a button 24-7.
And the OSHA training, all
that stuff, to me, that's
accountability and
archivability.
Why send the same video that
you've been using since 1985
over and over and over again,
when it could be, you know,
redone, or placed in
Mediasite, you
click it, watch it.
And something we're doing to
kind of latch onto that
accountability, is using
active directory.
Where a teacher signs onto their
computer at school, and
it opens up things that they
would have to remember, as far
as password, usernames.
And putting that-- and I think
we're going to talk about that
a little bit, too, but adding
that accountability of
tracking a teacher, as far as
professional development.
And giving them credit for it.
Right.
Also if you have students at a
remote locations, or you're
dealing with H1N1 issues,
stuff like that.
How are they going to recover
some of the content they lost.
Home bound, exactly.
Recovering some of the content
they lost. Or even like, in
our situation, we got our
language department who has
talked to us recently.
You got one school that teaches
Russian, but a student
wants to learn French.
So instead of bussing the
student from point A to point
B, they've got the information
right there at their
fingertips, right within
the school district.
So that saves you money
there too, as well.
The music department.
Drew just created some videos
on tuning instruments.
And you know, that's the cool
thing about being the guy
behind the camera, is I'm
experimenting with different
camera angles.
And you know, Dr. Drew is over
there telling, me can you get
this right here?
Can you get my iPhone, a shot
of my iPhone, as I use my
iPhone to tune instruments?
Now when he said that, I was
like, yeah, come on.
So you know, that kind of pushes
me too, to kind of--
And I'm open to anybody, when
somebody comes in and says,
can you do this?
I don't know, we'll try.
Let's see.
And then, you know, more to the
point to the K-12, there's
a lot of universities that are
using this technology.
So it's an easy transition
for students to go from
K-12 to higher ed.
And a lot of higher ed
institutions are now requiring
portfolios, as far as
acceptance to the
universities.
This is a great application
for students to build a
portfolio, to archive it, in
fact our school district is
now pushing that.
The portfolio development
within the district.
Digital portfolios, exactly.
And so, you know, you're looking
this as a tool, and
you look at this as
a snapshot, and
it's got big dividends.
It pays off for us.
You know, if you really start
thinking about this, it's
unlimited what you
can do with this.
And you know, I have teachers
who come in and say, I've have
done that webinar thing,
I've done that webex.
It's not the same thing.
I mean, it's online, but it's
not the same thing.
We'll get into that
later today.
The slide that you see has at
the top accountability.
And you see something that says
PDMS, or Professional
Development Management System
Basically that's a way for us
to use an online management
system for courses that
teachers will have to take.
Either for in house professional
development, or
maybe it's something
that the state, or
school district requires.
And what we're doing--
and I was really excited--
is PDMS, inside that, either
vendors and/or department
heads or teachers, are adding
links, hyperlinks, to videos
that they've either created or
had someone create for them.
And so the old standard of the
teacher goes, logs on, takes a
course, via on-site, or now, via
Mediasite, then they print
out an evaluation form, or go to
a site that they can do an
online evaluation.
And they get credit for that.
I mean, that's really
integrating two great features
into one system.
Get everything you need.
To me, it's evolving into the
online university, but at a
district level for PD,
which is great.
It's a natural evolution.
And we'll just go through the
next of these real fast, for
the sake of time.
We're using applications like
Web Monkey to evaluate some of
the things that teachers see,
and then using attachments and
links within the actual viewer
for teachers to download, do
an evaluation form, or answer
some questions about the video
and send it back, so we know
that they actually were able
to watch those presentations.
Or get credit.
Future plans for us right now.
We're looking at recording
our board meetings.
And more town hall meetings,
and having those archived.
We have a telecommunications
center, which is our cable
channel 19, and we are working
with integrating this
application with them.
And then addressing student
needs is our next big push.
We want to look at doing peer
to peer learning for
student test prep.
You know, having a student sit
down and watch a teacher on a
video with something is mundane
and annoying to them,
pretty much for the most
part, because this is
what they do all day.
But if you've got another
student teaching test prep to
students, it's a little bit
more interesting to them.
And then also addressing things
like home bound, and
special needs, and that sort
of direction is what we're
looking at for us
in the future.
And so hopefully, you know,
within the next year or so,
we'll be able to go ahead and
share what we're doing with
the students, and at what large
scale that's happenning,
and how successful we were
at something like that.
Those are great,
great comments.
Great presentation that you guys
put together, which like
I said earlier in the broadcast,
Scott and Jeff been
kind enough to share
their slides.
And they're available in the
links or the I information
icon in your viewer, as
I described before.
So they can start to liberate
some of your ideas.
A bunch of questions have come
in here, so with time we have
left, I'm going to hit you guys
with those, if that's OK.
Love the theme of, first
you had to steal.
The first question that came
in while you were talking,
when I guess the picture of your
first studio was up, with
a lot of wires.
A person said, your studio looks
complicated, but you
said earlier, it's
really easy.
Do you need all of that stuff?
I know you said it was simple,
just wondering where to begin.
Now that came in right away,
but if you could still
emphasize that.
Actually, a lot of that-- if
you're a Type A person, that
was probably a nightmare
for you.
And I know my wife is watching
this, she was cringing when
she saw that's slide
too, I know it.
A lot of it is not, there's
not really a
lot of cables there.
There's long cables.
We actually staged that shot.
To make us look really good.
Before and after.
Mediasite Home and
Garden Channel.
That is a result of us planning
on expanding.
First off, we had the
Mediasite box.
And really all we had was an
audio cable that connected to
our wireless lapel mic, and we
had a video cable, which was S
video, that connected to the
Mediasite box, and then the
VGI cable, and that's it.
And it's labeled on the side of
the recorder for you, and
you've got your first
presentation.
That is fantastic for someone
who wants to sit down and do a
quick 15-minute presentation.
There's nothing complicated
about it, that's that.
Now what we did is, with the
reading series, they wanted to
show a video.
So for us to be able to show a
video, we said, well we're
going to need a switcher.
Because we needed to switch
back and forth.
So that's when we got on MUG,
that's when we got-- that's
the users group--
We talked to friends.
We talked to AV people we knew
and found out which switcher
we want, and then we plugged
the switcher in And then as
more and more people started
demanding more and more, and
we want to accommodate them and
encourage them, we started
adding stuff.
Like the second speaker.
Can I get it in the
shot with--
Well, what do need?
We need one more wireless
microphone.
So we're going to--
Like today.
We have three wireless
microphones.
And so we picked up a mixing
board, because we knew that we
had to have a mixing board.
Liberated.
Liberated, yes, liberated.
I was listening.
You guys are going to
get in trouble.
We're going to get back to
Memphis and our jobs are going
to be gone.
That's my lamp!
Tell us about that liberating.
But it really, to
start out with--
Start small, and then
expand it as you go.
Because once you start working
in between all these requests
that people are doing, it starts
making sense to you.
You know, audio in, audio out.
Video in, video out.
It starts making a
lot more sense.
So don't over complicate it at
the very beginning, I guess we
should have predicated that.
And don't let that picture--
I mean, again, it's lack
of housekeeping
on our end, as well.
We should be tying up cables.
We should actually be taking
cable out that
we don't need anymore.
But I think, you know, when Jeff
and I were both in there,
we'd say, well, we'll need it
at another time, so we'll
leave it right there.
The question was from
Jeff's wife.
Another question came in.
There's a couple that are very
similar, so I'll synthesize
them together.
People want to know what's more
complex, the AV camera
aspects of working and
creating Mediasite
presentations, or dealing with
the Mediasite piece of it, the
recording part?
You know I was--
Jeff was really good at
the back end part.
The content management?
I was more of the, you know,
I get this to work.
I can shoot the video,
I can get the sound.
You know, and he did some of
that stuff on the other side.
But Jeff really is good
at what I call
the back end stuff.
And you know, he still
does that.
I do more of the shooting.
To me, it's just, the video
camera's stationary.
All I'm doing is telling the
person where to sit, and maybe
zooming in and out, adjusting
white balance, and that's it.
Turning the lights on and
positioning the lights.
That's the end of what I do.
And hit record.
That's it.
Now, on the other side, is
the content management.
Which Jeff showed me two years
ago, and after using it over
and over, you know, I'm getting
to where I don't have
to call him all the time.
Whereas when I first came in to
it, I would say, Jeff, you
remember what you did?
You've got to come
back and show me.
So it can be daunting, but
it's nothing that a--
Again, third grade teacher,
mental health counselor.
What teacher?
Sixth.
Sixth grade.
You know, if we can do
it, you can do it.
If Scott can do it,
anybody can do it.
But you know, the content
management, I would say, it
goes back to start off simple.
Use what's out of the box,
experiment, and play.
I did fine.
I didn't know as much about
Kodak settings and everything
that I wanted to, so I went
and played with it.
And then once I got comfortable
with it, it made
more sense.
I could look up a VCR or a DVD
player, so the video aspect of
it was nothing to me.
But learning the Kodak settings
was a little bit of a
challenge, but it didn't take
much time to figure it out.
It wasn't bad at all.
And don't forget--
You know, we've said it like,
maybe five, six times.
You've got that Mediasite
Users Group aspect.
You've got that big bowl of
knowledge of like minded
people who understand what
you're talking about.
It's almost like going to Radio
Shack and saying, you
know, I need a plug to go here,
and they go, no, this is
what you mean.
This is how you say it.
And this is how it can make
you sound better.
Instead of a plug, how
about one eight jack
to a quarter inch--
Teach you how to--
There's quite a few questions,
that are basically the same
one, that I get all the time,
which is like, what kind of
camera do you use.
So you said you use
a Canon camera.
People want to know, do you use
a fancy expensive camera?
Did you start small?
What do you use?
We have a little old Canon.
I guess we can put
the model number.
It's like a net Cam.
Net Cam, yeah.
That we use.
And then every once in a while
we'll break out one of our
little camcorders, the
Panasonic camcorder.
Just the same ones that are
in the district for other
applications.
Here's an example.
Drew had me do the
music stuff.
And I basically, out of my
cabinet, took out a-- it had
to have been 12 year old, mini
DV, you know with the
Cassette, mini DV
video camera.
And I just put a S video link
into it, that was it.
It looks great.
The optics are great.
You know, you don't have
to go out and buy--
it'd be nice--
a $2,000, $3,000 video camera.
Right now, there's a nice camera
that's shooting us.
I'm jealous.
Yeah, but we couldn't
afford that.
I wonder if we could
liberate that.
We couldn't justify that.
But, you know, a $200 camera,
or a camera you've got in a
closet in your school,
it's fine.
That's all you need, it's
just video camera.
That goes to another question
people asked about lighting.
You use lighting.
Is it necessary?
We shot both using fluorescent
in that lamp,
as kind of a backlight.
And when we went to actually
paying for--
We actually got, we got
the communications,
the TV folk, involved.
And they let us borrow a set of
lights, and let us see what
we were missing out on.
Once we saw all those
lights put in,
An inexpensive, really good
increase in quality.
Because people have commented,
when you've won these awards,
about the studio quality.
You know, we can't do that
in our school district.
You're saying the secret
sauce is good
lighting, good backdrop.
Right.
There was one time, I think we
did this for the submission
for RMA, we actually
had a whiteboard.
One of those--
It would reflect light.
-to do the fill light.
We had someone stand there from
the window on the other
side of us, and we had them
do the fill light.
I mean, we were using windows as
a key light, and you know,
we were just being creative.
But we had that dark blue
shower curtain as a
background.
It is a shower curtain?
It is a shower curtain,
we're proud of it.
Target?
Walmart?
I think it was, I don't know.
Walmart, Target whatever.
But we needed to separate them
from the background, because
it looked like they
were blending in.
Here's a great question from a
friend of mine in Chicago.
Does Mediasite have a protected
login for teachers.
This person is wondering how
confidential their content
would be, with the use of
the Mediasite system.
Absolutely.
There's a protected
side of it.
In fact, we're working on trying
to get ours integrated
with our active directory.
And so when the teacher logs in,
only the people that are
on the active directory
account can see that.
So the same login that they
use to log into email, and
stuff like that, at their desk,
is going to secure and
sort the Mediasite.
To control what this teacher
John can see, and what this
teacher Sue can see,
and all that.
We're very proud of our
integrated security.
It's got to be incredibly
important in a K-12 enterprise
environment.
It is, it really
is, especially.
Probably about 95% of our stuff
is wide open, and about
5% is locked down still.
When the superintendent, deputy
superintendent, needs
to get stuff out to teachers,
and they do that at the
communication center where they
have the great equipment
to videotape it, then Jeff
usually locks it down, and
there's an email, mass email
sent out to teachers, and it
gives them the username
and password.
So you know, it's video that may
be just sent for your eyes
only, kind of a sensitive
issue material.
Another question that came in,
and this is also similar to
some other questions, is
about getting started.
People still want to know.
Who did you have to get around
the table to get the green
light on that first Mediasite
purchase?
Did you try the iMovie, non
Mediasite approach first, and
then, you know, use
that as evidence?
Or how did you get started?
Well really, we were playing
around with this concept
before we got Mediasite.
We were doing videocasting
and podcasting.
And we were trying to show to
teachers, and everything.
And Scott, poor Scott would
spend hours back in his cube
editing video.
In fact, we did this one with
the Memphis zoo, and the
walkie talkie from the curator
there, the signal conflicted
with our wireless lapel mic, so
all he got was this garbled
munched junk, but fortunately
we were able to recover some
audio off the camera--
Secondary camera.
Yeah, he had to link audio and
lips, and stuff like that,
together, and it just
took a long period
of time to do that.
And then whenever, once we were
able to play, and what
have you, and we were able to
push something out like that,
you know for trial, and people
saw the quality, the success,
the ease of use, it didn't
take much at all.
In fact, our boss at the time,
our supervisor at the time,
saw it and was immediately
sold.
Just on how much less time of
Scott's it took to produce
something of high quality.
And that's, in my experience in
working with K-12 districts
around the world, that's
exactly, you know, usually a
major selling point when you
can show how much time it
saves, because staff time is
so incredibly valuable.
And actually, you know feel free
to email us, and say, you
know, give us some points
on how to sell this.
I mean, you know, we've been
in the business of selling
this, and we're still selling
it, believe it or not.
We're still selling it to
departments in our own region,
in our district, that even
though we've won two--
knock on wood, two great awards
for what we've been
doing, there are still
departments that, what?
What is this thing?
And then when they see it,
they're like, wow.
And that's why your
exposure ideas
are incredibly important.
One other question I want to
make sure we get in under the
wire, because different people
asked this in different ways,
but this is the best
phrasing of it.
Who owns the systems?
You want to tell them how many
you have. They want to know
how many Mediasites you have.
Does Mediasite sit within one
specific department, like PD,
professional development?
How do you handle competing
requests for use?
Do you run into conflicts?
So give the dirty laundry.
We've got two servers.
We've got the podcast server,
and then we've got our regular
server that has the database
and the application.
Actually, it's three, because
we've got the split up.
And then we've got
two mobile units.
Two mobile Mediasite
capture recorders.
Two boxes.
Two carry on boxes.
One sits in my office, at
communications, so they can
feed it to me real fast. The
other one you saw at Scott's
in the studio.
And he schedules most of the--
So you schedule the
whole studio.
Not just the Mediasite box?
This is how it works.
That studio, that
box stays there.
And when we need a box, I'll
come get the box from Jeff to
go take somewhere.
So yours is the mobile unit?
Generally.
And then, we actually--
The Department of--
actually, we were considered
Instructional
Technology at the time--
used our funds to purchase the
application, and then right
now everybody's using it.
But now our instructional
department, which was under PD
and curriculum, has now merged
with our IT department.
So we're using IT
funds for it.
Since everybody uses that,
it all kind of
blends in together now.
It originally started--
and I understand where that
question's coming from-- it
originally started
as PD funded.
This device PD funded, but it
was the technology aspect of
professional development,
if that makes any sense.
And after that, I mean,
there was really--
when you shot the video
and showed what it can
do, that was it.
I mean, it literally speaks for
itself visually, when you
can see this stuff.
And that accountability aspect
of, here's how many people
just watched that video that you
just did, versus the five
people that you had
after school.
Well, in three days, 60 people
just watched that video.
That's impressive.
People can understand that,
why do I continue to, you
know, come to a 3:00, 4:00
thing, if nobody's showing up,
where I can shoot it in the
studio, it'll take me five,
ten, minutes, and anybody
can watch at any time.
As far as scheduling, basically,
they email me, and
we'll set up a time.
And usually, I can turn around
and give somebody a time to
come in and shoot their video
within the next day.
I can do it as quick as that.
Sometimes that day.
And we'll shoot it in five,
ten, fifteen minutes, and
we're done.
It's not a two hour adventure,
unless you get, you know,
people who kind of get
a little nervous in
front of the camera.
I try real hard to
make them feel
comfortable behind the camera.
That's another aspect of
Mediasite that is just
inherent in what it does is.
You do have to kind of play
the, it's all right.
You know, the 17 times that
you just messed up on that
word, it's OK.
I did it 22 times.
You know, you start
doing that stuff.
The teacher in you comes out,
even when you're helping
people be on camera.
Well, my last question to you,
we're out of time, but if you
had to sum up-- you both
talked about how
important ROI is.
So if you had to say, each one
of you, in one sentence the
most valuable difference about
using Mediasite, or the most
valuable application of it,
for people who are getting
started, what do you think is
the most valuable application
of Mediasite, of all the ones
you talked about today?
I think that the accountability
of being able
to show who's using what, and
being able to see how it's
affecting change within the
district, based on the numbers
that are right there, live.
Information right there.
The reporting side of it.
Where you can see who
watched what, when.
How many times.
Who's on right now,
just like that.
Just like I know, the
Netherlands joined us even--
[UNINTELLIGIBLE]
Your most important
ROI or impact?
Here is my most important
thing.
Educators.
If it's good enough for Fortune
500 companies, if it's
good enough for colleges,
universities, community colleges.
If it's good enough for them,
why aren't we using it?
You know, we're always
reactive.
Here's a chance to
be proactive, and
put this in the now.
And I know I'll have educators,
I want to be the
sage on the stage,
you still can.
You still can be the sage on
the stage, but on video.
And guess what?
You'll have a following.
You know, you'll have 500 people
that watch you, if you
want to go back and
count numbers.
But I mean, it's the now.
You're already doing it.
I mean, when you're taking an
online course, you are already
doing what this is all about.
And isn't it good enough
for the district.
I like it.
Well, no wonder you guys have
such a big following, winning
awards, and all kinds
of press.
We're glad you could take time
out of your busy schedule and
come all the way
up to Madison.
Thank you, Scott.
Thank you, Jeff.
Thanks for the snow.
You've got to see a little of
that while you're up here.
I'd like to thank the marketing
team at Sonic
Foundry, and Event Services for
producing this webcast.
And most of all, I'd like to
thank all of you for joining
us for this live webinar.
Thank you very much, and we'll
see you the next time.